The Nine Nations of North America and/or The Physics of Immortality (anyone recognize this author).ANDREW:
You all come on over and visit while I'm here. I wouldn't quite say it "scoops" up the ground cleanly. Because your guy, Gore, lost the election? can you show "me" your rationale. Religion has become far less centralized. You have welcomed a stranger into your lives who is not what he appears to be. at the end of the insightful and logical part, not the beginning. John -- read your page. People with the skills to make clothing, work with leather and wood or cultivate a garden have become quite valuable. ( Who builds typewriters anymore and who last used the typewriter in a most infamous way? Would you hope.nothing? Truth is something we all want. ))Not at all. ((9. In fact, maybe you could just abbreviate it and put a number rating from 1-100 next to it so I know how strong you feel. The distortion unit reaches its target destination by using very sensitive gravity sensors and atomic clocks. And you always give a conflicting point of view to others you've had to answer. What all of us on here want is the truth, not science fiction. (4) In six months time give Art the encryption key and he can reveal what you said. One of the first assumptions I would discard is that physics suppositions are "either/or" proposals. (I'll look over the past posts of course, but reiteration doesn't hurt.) If you can't remember the exact date, could you put the month at least? Will it decay? I'm eager to see some better photos
Your next question may be "Why do you believe that?" I don't believe John is a time traveler right now. Did you just start your job at the government? http://bbs.artbell.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25, http://bbs.artbell.com/showthread.php?threadid=1203, http://members.tripod.com/~jrtooker/index-2.html, http://www.xone.net/tti/board/ubbhtml/Forum1/HTML/000367.html, http://qso.lanl.gov/~bromley/nu_nofun.html, http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html, http://mercury.sfsu.edu/~hl/c.IBM.5100.html, http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/9822/, http://www.anomalies.net/original-john-titor-posts-post2post-art-bell-forum-part-1/. Do you live in a racist society? For most of my adult life, I have read about, wondered and debated about this time. ))Now you think about this? could you please copy and paste the statement and tell me what page it is onthanks. Hydrogen is converted into propane because it's easier to handle.ROY:((I would hope that the paradise I live in would somehow be spared (the Hawaiian Islands) but I suspect it would not be spared as a strategic target for obvious reasons))My parents went to Hawaii on their Honeymoon. You claim that you have no interest in proving to us that you are a time-traveller. show'. I spend a great deal of time now archiving.JEFFERY:((I spotted few typing errors in Johns comments so I will assume that he has had an average education by our standards))You must be energized and anxious to improve your education system then. I find it almost impossible to believe that a tweak done by a 'software engineer' in 1975 could provide for you something that you could find at no other place between now and 'your time', and certainly without having to make a stop-over in our time to get back that far. Believe it or not -- *I* work for the government. ((Does living near a river with a distillation unit take care of water problems? Your web site is unreachable. And I being one of the only one with enough sense to see that, you get upset with me. "John would be grabbed by government federal agents and held incognito until a determination could be made based on national security. Are they ALL hit? I can see the levels you are defining, in some cases, -- and I can see that they are encompassed in possibilities you are not consideringEx.--I find it very difficult to belive that a software tweak (hence 'software engineers', -software-) done to a 1975 machine could cause it to do this translation more effectively or more portably than something around even today. 1. Time travel may be possible, but if you were to time travel, you would NOT land on Earth. Lighten up! You have claimed several times that you will not participate in assisting anyone to get out of 'death by probability'. ((How are the five people within the 100 miles contacted? But, they are beliefs, and I could not prove them to you. If they thought for a second that you were for real, they would be on your ass so fast, and your "Time Machine" would be in the hands of the US military my friend.I'm about 99.9% skeptical, but I do like the odd sci-fi story, and enjoy your writing. I have seen diagrams, descriptions, interpretations, crude 'make your own' manuals, and the like -- and yet nothing, not one iota of anything that could without question come from some future. A few lines later you state (after me saying you should know a hell of a lot more about the machines you're operating) that you do know much about it, but you're not willing to share it with everyone. ))Yes, the menus are screen driven.Posted by Pamela Moore on 02-19-2001 07:53 PMSmileConfirming for John:""""RICK:
chill reality (and time) are very plastic things- we change the future AND the past constantly, and to far less
--"This is one example of a theory involving "time shells" progressing in size and intensity around a gravitational point from all matter. Look at what message board you are on!! You have continued this thread for that purpose alone, and I find everything you have done supports this.As far as wishing to speak of issues regarding our humanity, or culture, it is quite clear that this is not your intention (contrary to what you insist). (3)If you have any pictures of the IBM computer you were susposed to get, could you post a link to them also? ((I'm touched by your concern for my safety. 2. That much is true. Its ok to question, we are all just trying to find out the truth about things. i just think you skirt around too many issues .. & by refusing to even mention something from the 'future' that could not be -changed- by people -today-..it just gives me further evidence that you are not who you say you are. am I remembering straight? Vega and Mr. Hendrickson:The wonderful ability for the human mind to group things by simularities, generalize, and vaguely remember stories heard in the past exists.But it is not conclusive proof of the falsity of anybodies claims.I, as an attempted-authorer (pretty simular to being an attempted-murderer), have ran into the 'universal hero myth' dillema face to face, in mental combat to the death . Posted by John Titor on 02-19-2001 07:25 PM. What would happen if you, while traveling on personel business, died while visiting yourself. The air is either clean or it will kill you. Secondly why is this little book so important. it may have already been nipped in the bud for all you know..because ours is a different -worldline- from yours!)). Three days walk from where? My reaction to it is what's important to God. The 5100 had a very simple and unique feature that IBM did not account for and decided it was not in their best interest to advertise (which in hindsight was not very smart). HE spent quite a few years listening to talk radio shows on his little walkmans, working and travelling. and if you were it has already happened so could you go into detail as to what you did. I'm not a mechanic, but I can certainly tell you a great deal about how an internal combustion engine works. John you were asked these 2 questions, and you responded to them. I find this an interesting point you've made again. How do new recruits get selected?My unit has between 6 and 10. The music you enjoy now is quite popular and available it's just not produced in anywhere near the same amount. ( this conflicts with his above comments: here he seems to want to save some people, while above he wants to kill us all off)). Maybe the reason we are all on this board now is to find this out.You mention the nature of Canadians but I don't think you mentioned the impact of all of this on that country. I am not a computer expert. I have said I do not believe your story, but I hope you will still answer my questions. Why isn't the mere act of speaking with other people an end in itself? There would be a static discharge and the air would appear to "ripple" as if it were getting denser. i can possibly understand how telling us that there will be a horrible bombing in canada..would affect the future .. someone on here may be from canada & keep their family away from the site of the bombing .. thus, changing future.. but telling us something of little importance will NOT change the future! I remember playing with magnets back then, and being absolutely fascinated with the magic of magnetic fields even then (which eventually drove me into the sciences, chemistry, physics and finally electronics engineering). Since the equation mixes time and space up we have to always think in terms of this new concept: space-time! just trying to take it all in. Does what happen here affect your future? So far most of your assertions have been related to either John not answering your questions, or some inconsistency in his story revolving around his Basic training and it's relevance to when he was recruited for time travel. ((You suggest bicycle. With your superior education, I assume you already figured out that pretty soon someone might try that with a clone. When was the last time you spoke with someone as intelligent and well versed in these subjects?I hope John or whatever his name is writes a book. disintegration, beginning in three short years, is utterly improbable, if not impossible. Also, there are 16 apparent buttons. As I recall, Hawking felt that it was possible to build a machine but some sort of vacuum fluctuations would destroy it right before you tried to use it. I am currently based in Tamp Florida in Hillsborough County. ), 4. How are the five people within the 100 miles contacted? I only submitted it here so John didnt have to explain it all over again. A TT blessed with a TT-device capable of traveling through time while standing still relative to the earth wouldn't have to worry much about where the earth would be 30 years into the future -- because he and his device are already moving in such a way that he will be in the same place 30 years down the time axis.Of course this is assuming that einstien's physics was at least accurate enough for such purposes. When the civil "conflict" started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. I know I wouldn't take any money from someone that had mint marks from 2036. backstreet boys & britney spears.. you couldn't even answer the simple question of what will be the next 'movement' in music? Indeed, in general terms I understand innately for myself why these things must come to pass. If there were nukes, how do any survive? Perhaps one of us could volunteer to compile all the direct q&a sort of a John Titor FAQ. Even if there is 'civil war' or nuclear war -- people like myself are already prepared for those things. Is this about right? Once in 1975, we'll drive back to Tampa and make the final hop to 2036. (Which in fact, he just avoided answering it, by doing what he did). ((I guess you are held accountable, in some way, for changes that occur in your time period..)). and is the equivalent of "our" "you have to carry your own weight"?As a programmer, the UNIX issue you refer to is a bit of a problem. Like AOL Instant Messagner? He can always leave the room on his own worldline or put a desk full of books in the position where the time machine is arriving every 30 seconds. We know what direction we are moving in. lay the foundation for the evolving political divisions you
In fact, maybe you could just abbreviate it and put a number rating from 1-100 next to it so I know how strong you feel. (3). ((What happens if the experimenter, upon seeing his duplicate, decides not to continue the experiment? )), RYAN:
1) Does the last name hubbard have any historical(is that the right term?) ((2) If each world line is separate from the others, then wouldn't the consequences of your actions now have no effect on your original world line? (3) I never said I was a scientist. This problem lasted for quite a while until a very smart person came up with a very simple solution. Posted by Matt Hagemeier on 02-01-2001 11:55 AM. (3) Will there still be Harley-Davidsons around when you are born? Yes, there are probably people like that but I am not in active conversation with them. ))How many days seem normal? But when you Time Traveled to the year 2000 you just had to spill the beans to everyone, and are now finally realizing the out comes of your actions might not be wise.Man, how irresponsible is that? The book is "When Corporations Rule the World" by John C. Aren't you at all worried that it's only a matter of time before you are found out? With respect to this folder, what stuck out for me was that the Millenial Kids (recently born and probably up to about 10 or 12 now) were of the same type as the kids who grew up and built the US infrastructure during the 30's and 40's -and then fought WW2. I MIGHT make it to 150 given todays medical advancements. Can you at least tell us which cities will be nuked? had to have been preceded by many more fracturing events other than Ruby Ridge, Waco,the Oaklahoma bombing,etc., over a much longer period of time in order to culminate in your predicted scenario. It looks like someone raked the ground an inch or so deep with a small hand hoe or shovel. The descriptions John provided are much more convincing than his ability to write a given equation. [Edited by Nikki Colwill on 02-12-2001 at 01:37 PM], Posted by Kane Greene on 02-12-2001 03:49 PM. I MIGHT make it to 150 given todays medical advancements. These odd properties also have a pronounced affect on the black hole's gravity. Posted by John Titor on 02-08-2001 09:40 AM. . i can't fathom why you can not speak of something such as that.. Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-12-2001 11:14 AM. You could have brought the lowest denomination coin of your time with a mint mark anywhere after 2001 and probably convinced almost all of us. (7) I go on vacation in May. hear. any
I also have two teenage sons who are gun nuts. And did you enjoy them. I am not p***ed off -- not yet. The 100 Kt to 1 Mt are the most popular. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. In relation to my first comments about folks attacking John's veracity -- I have to say that John's stories/statements DO hold water. I am extremely surprised! If so, you may have met me. page 6
You requested I point out some inconsistencies. Constant speed is not acceleration.LARGE GRAVITY = STATIC BLACK HOLE
Depending on how close any object is to the field, it might not do any damage at all except for the floor.Pamela:5.what would happen to a bird or small animal that ran across the field right when it was producing the field to travel?Timetravel_0-It would be quickly spread out over the lateral length of the gravity field. Posted by James Boley on 02-05-2001 01:32 PM. You can't have conspiracy to limit the population with a disease without the cure.21. What does this look like? 2 less than brilliant people as President, and Vice President in a row says as much about Republicans, as the Clinton scandals, and Gore's ineptitude say a about the democrats. My earlier comment referred to be choosen for this mission. Differences between worldlines are measured from the perspective of the time traveler in terms of divergence percentage. I can't wait to see what the future holds.I want to LIVE time though, I don't want to go to the future and not be able to get back to my family and friends. There is a patch. I'm just not willing to share it with everyone. I thought the idea here was to have constructive dialogue. I apologize. OK John, I know your playing this Machiavelli role again, of going silent and hiding. [Edited by Javier Cortez on 02-19-2001 at 10:13 PM], Posted by Javier Cortez on 02-19-2001 10:18 PM. If the "me" here goes on to have the same type of life and future work that I did, it may not look good on his resume that another "him" has left a videotape behind of his future mission to 1975.)). It fits the exact description John has give us of his machine. ))I'm sure I would end up in one of their nice little padded cells while they poked at my machine with a screwdriver. It can also get quite hot and stuffy during the trip and you'll be subjected to a 1.5 to 2 G force the entire time. You must be energized and anxious to improve your education system then. It seems that 30 seconds before his experiment was to begin he saw himself appear in the lab. Somehow I always see this out of liberally-biased people, when someone is being quizzed, these liberally-biased people complain of attacks when they (or their heros) can't answer questions to someone's satisfaction. Does living near a river with a distillation unit take care of water problems? ((Is propane still around in the future?)). Therefore their story is up for judgement as to whether it is worth "banking on". If you do, then I must be real if all possibilities exist. Posted by John Titor on 02-19-2001 11:03 AM, CHAD:
If I had a way to prove you were truly a time traveler -- that secret would be safe with me (as would anything else you told me). The theorem, which is applicable to right angled triangles in flat Cartesian (Newtonian) space takes the form of:c^2 = a^2 + b^2where a, b and c are the lengths of the sides of the triangle.Next we will jump straight to Einstein's theory of Relativity which states that neither time, length, or indeed mass remain constant additive quantities when approaching the speed of light c. Our simple ideas of time and space come from the fact the we are so used to living in a three dimensional universe. One of the more odd and potentially dangerous items produced from this incease in energy will be microsingularities a fraction of the size of an electron. ))I'm not sure that's true. And it's always about you. OK, here is the BIG problem. John, Posted by John Tooker on 02-02-2001 02:24 AM. Another fellow who posted earlier was a bit upset over what I was saying because he thought I was soon going to ask for money by selling something. The Farmer General is nothing new. John IS a TT'er who has a hidden agenda. Is any of this a result of your expiriences with biological warfare? ((I guess if you asked Joseph Campbell there are only a few stories and all literature is the re-telling of the same few stories in different settings. ((i would first like to state that i for one have never said you're an idiot -- i said you are aggravating. I also don't know how to clarify my position any better so I would suggest that if what I say angers you, it might be best to just consider it fiction. 1) What effect will following technologies have
So I hereby eat my words about not posting anymore. There are only Star Trekein blabberings.Once an event occurs it NEVER changes( except for What special happenings?- you should know this John!)2. 2.Anything I say could be acted on beforehand and changed anyway. Sounds like it will be quite a sight to behold. There are plenty of nuclear weapons left but if anyone uses them they will be instantly erased from the planet by everyone else regardless of the politics. Political correctness is not my forte, nor do I profess that anyone use it anymore. I also think that it is a mystery to unravel. 3. The food in the future is grown and raised naturally inside the community structure. Are airlines in operation? It is believed that all worldlines end. I even have permission from the government to tell anybody I want because they know there's not a snowball's chance in hell that anyone (that counts)would believe it.I have considered fictionalizing it but it irks me to have to lie so people will take me seriously. We are interested in what the guy had to say, because he made several points, some of them very sound, scientifically. ThanksPosted by Javier Cortez on 02-19-2001 10:07 PMJohn,
Did you scrounge around to find 40 year old currency in 2036? You could have brought the lowest denomination coin of your time with a mint mark anywhere after 2001 and probably convinced almost all of us. Extremes tend to bring you closer to God so I would characterize religion and spirituality as a much more of a personal institution. Now it's no longer an excuse of not being able to log on. I doubt that most jet fighter pilots are aeronautical engineers and I'll bet most of you couldn't give me the formula for horsepower, yet you drive a car every day. Yes we still have toilet tissue and some people still suffer from extreme anal fixation. Posted by John Titor on 01-30-2001 02:09 PM. Posted by James Boley on 02-06-2001 06:47 AM. I know that's not the right formula, but it's something like that, I can check it in my "Top 10 Torque Monsters" of Motor Trend magazine.Posted by Mel Reckling on 02-13-2001 09:14 AMJohn,
Would it not be easier to write in the original language instead of having a machine translation? ( So we have a TEN YEAR civil war???)9. Can you give us some brief personal stories of your past? I wish you and your family only the bestfor all time.R.C. Right now, do any of you know the details of the first week in February for 1970? I will not disclose any detailed information that would allow someone to avoid death by probability. My unit has between 6 and 10. & telling us something such as her existance would not greatly affect the outcome of our entire world.. so why not tell us? Now, in the twilight of the 21st century, this locus of capital, political influence and media control is taking on a life of its own, out of the control of even those at the top of the command heirarchy, with concommitant
"It's possible that through his "slander" and "gossip," Satan turned one-third of the angelic host against God. I remember distinctively you saying that you got approached for this mission right after basic training. I think I understand why Rick was impressed as I know a bit more about Rick today than I did 2 days ago I mean his technical background. In fact I didn't consider "your" statements as an attack at all until you called JT a liar. ((The US government Russian or any other, would be in the same boat. The Local Group, superclusters and on out how fast are they traveling? The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. A winner of some obscure 10k race in Utah nobody would remember, but Derby winners and especially Triple Crown winners hold international prominence. Blah!Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-12-2001 01:15 PMI was born in 1957. However -- just because I were to look something over gives no more meaning to the rest of you than it would if one of you looked his stuff over, believed it then told ME. )Posted by John Titor on 02-10-2001 09:49 AMWaco, Ruby Ridge and Elian exist in your news archives. an adjective -- not a noun. I'll say this much. )), Posted by Benedict Gumby on 02-13-2001 11:07 AM, You still haven't answered my question from page 8
I apologize. (GI Generation) The GIs were classified as a very civic minded generation. ))Please don't think me so cynical. However, since I'm archiving all of this and will submit it with my report, it will eventually end up on our internet. Say you were back in 1900, and you mentioned something about us going to the moon. A large segment of the population has become indifferent to the actions of the FED. And just for the record the formula for horsepower is something along the lines of reldline rpm X 35 / 6500
You mentioned earlier (I don't know if it were hypothetical) that you were sent to change something here in 2000 or 2001, were you succesful? Roman Republic. At 100% power, the constant pull of gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more
"There is more e-mail me if anyone wants the restPeacePosted by Javier Cortez on 02-19-2001 03:25 PMSmileI'm still waiting for you to respond to my questions TT_0. ((Can you give us some brief personal stories of your past? resulting loss of control over individual and community autonomy. 3. Who wins the Stanley Cup (Hockey) this year? I fear they may not let me leave in such debt. Do you believe it to be a true or factual event timeline?I am told that fear keeps us further from the truth and God, that being said, you had stated earlier that fear is what would keep us alive, at least I think you said something like that, anyway I find that a contradiction.I would like to speak/e-mail with you. P.S. Yes, biological threats are bigger, but do not rule out nukes, ever. If you mean military, the world has developed into an odd balance. I suppose I could predict the failure of Apollo 13 spacecraft but since time travel is ridiculous, I would be blamed for sabotage. The rip on the travelers side will stay in the same geographic location, while traveling through time, while the rip on the new dimension will follow the traveler. (2) Encrypt said text file. (Hearing in my right ear isn't as good as I would like it). ((So that leads to the question why would he reveal himself if he has no stated aganda for doing so? ((1) would you be able to internationally travel by:
((What company were you with, and what year did you graduate from BCT? I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge.(2). the future, but most certainly not commencing a mere
I always thought the TT package meant trailer towing. What kind of criminals are in them?What kind of public punishment is there? Or what about telling us something like a hollywood story of someone breaking up, or getting married, good luck trying to change thator of a company's profitsSOMETHING. on the Internet. If you really like "guns, shooting" and you are interested in democracy, you should be reading the writing on the wall, like many other patriots. I have revelation for you This guy is "an American".As gloomy a picture as he paints, the society he describes is leaps and bounds ahead of us in their reverence for the Constitution which as John says we should all read.JC has been on this guy's case for a while now and I don't see "Titor" insulting him or anyone else.As to the frequency of the word "kill" in his posts. 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