Thanos on the other hand is the opposite. Their leader Ajak may not have been inspired by Tony Stark's sacrifice and had the realization that Earth is worth saving. The Avengers' battle with Thanos for the fate of the Infinity Stones was a brutal one that almost resulted in the destruction of all life in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Wait, why the heck would Doctor Strange willingly give Thanos the stone? And found that his passion lays in scriptwriting, where he can combine his love of movies, writing, and storytelling. I wasnt paying attention for that specifically the first time. @doomstoaa: Again where was it confirmed he could do the time loop specifically again outside of Dormammus dimension lol? Cap verbalizes this difference in ideology when he says that we do not trade lives when talking about destroying the mind stone. While Strange could control time with the Time stone, Thanos could control reality with the reality stone. What i'm curious about is why strange didnt use the time stone from the past to restore his own so that future threats like dormmamu wont be a problem. WebThanos with 4 stones should have no problems breaking free even if strange somehow succeeds in casting a spell when he failed doing so against Maw. He brutally grabs Thanos' throat and forces him to experience his entire life asthe Conquererliterally ages the Mad Titan to death. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of Strange's ultimate decision resulted in the deaths of Iron Man, Black Widow and the Vision -- resulting in the Scarlet Witch's fury with Doctor Strange. By halving life on all planets, he essentially delayed the destruction of many Celestial-seeded worlds. Marvel confirms Doctor Strange could have easily stopped Thanos by using a horrific time-manipulation technique. It's a worse version of seeing the future and then picking a path bc he's actively in combat where high pressure can mess things up. In the comics, Drax is not only much stronger than his on-screen counterpart, he was essentially created to defeat Thanos. . . . . . . . . . . Just Of course, that's not to saymessing with time won't play a part in that More:Time Travel In The MCU & Avengers: Endgame Explained. He once asked Tom Cruise about his supposedly fake-butt in Valkyrie (he swore it was all real). At the center of Avengers: Endgame was Josh Brolin's Thanos, who continues to make his presence felt through Phase 4after his quest for the Infinity Stones made an everlasting mark on the entire MCU. Ya, Ive seen one theory saying the power stone over-rules the other stones. So it appearsthat Doctor Strange wanted the Snap to occur, although some fans have taken the theory even further. Perhaps there's a way to break Thanos' contract with the Stone. In Thanos had the infinity gauntlet, he probably has a better chance of winning but doctor Strange if one of the more smart characters in the MCU, Strange can't just fight Thanos the same way and be successful. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of them showing the Avengers victorious. By venturing across the multiverse and weakening the walls separating different timelines, Strange was single-handily responsible for this event, to the horror of himself and his friends. He used it to look at all possible futures and saw that the only way to beat Thanos required him to give Thanos In Infinity War, Thanos' primary goal on Titan is to get the Time Stone from Strange; bringing it out of wherever he'd hidden it to create a loop riskedexposing it to attack. For the same reason he didn't just cut Thanos' hand off or his head like they did the other guy. Based on feats and logic Strange wins all rounds via time stop. You may have also seen/heard him on the Total Geekall podcast, unaffiliated YouTube channels, BBC Radio and CBC News. Stones destroyed. Then he would use the 4 stones to overpower the time stone and strange would lose his stone. I don't know. One theory I've seen and agree with is that once Thanos had the Soul Stone he was effectively unstoppable as it became sort of like his "guardian angel." However, as the 2016 Doctor Strange film suggested, tampering with time comes with its own costs, including the distinct possibility of Thanos being trapped in a time loop if he potentially attempted to repair the Gauntlet. A largely peaceful reality protected by the Illuminati instead of the Avengers, Doctor Strange is introduced to the group after their own version of Infinity War and Endgame. Does he view the world from a different perspective? He does go through some measure of self sacrifice to achieve his goals but his main thing is that other people have to be sacrificed to save everyone else. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Looking for all the world like a vengeful Hamlet, Kang holds aloft Thanos' skull, triumphant. Doctor Strange used the Time Stone and saw the one (and only) path to victory over Thanos. Unlikely. Thanos is a master planner, he has thought of basically everything in most presentations of the character. He is a master of numerous fie And maybe (and apologise for the cross fandom mention {HP}) Strange is only worthy of possessing one of the infinity stones and not mess up everything - but again, new Spider-Man trailer seems to imply hes not worthy of the time stone either. In the prime MCU, Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos after the Mad Titan stabbed Tony Stark, only leaving the villain one Infinity Stone short of completing the set as he left Strange, Stark, Spider-Man, and four of the Guardians of the Galaxy on Titan. In fact, Avengers: Secret Wars title logo and color scheme seem to signal Doctor Dooms Secret Wars upgrade as God Emperor Doom. Although it's hard to tell how many Infinity Stones he possessedat that point in time, he already has the golden Gauntlet that Eitri the Dwarf made for him on Nidavellir,most likely meaning that this moment wassimilar to the equivalent timeframe in Avengers: Infinity War. Could MCU Thanos with 4 stones beat Dr Strange with just time stone, without WIS/PIS? The Illuminati Is All but Confirmed for 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness', Marvel's New Trailer for 'Doctor Strange 2' Has Fans Wondering if Wanda is the Villain, 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness' Will Be the Scariest MCU Movie Yet. After being somewhat corrupted by the use of the Darkhold, this variant of Strange discovered that his actions had actually set an Incursion in motion, resulting in one reality crashing into another, killing untold trillions in a flash. Although Avengers: Infinity War debuted in theaters nearly four years ago, MCU fanatics can't help but debate over one pivotal scene involving everyone's favorite Sorcerer, Doctor Stephen Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch). It's true that Doctor Strange looked into more than 14,000,605 different futures "to see all possibly outcomes of the coming conflict" but evidently there were still some futures he did not see. WebWhile on Titan, Doctor Strange and the rest of the gang battle against Thanos (Josh Brolin), ultimately failing to defeat the Mad Titan. One Redditor shared, "Having rewatched Avengers: Endgame, I have come to the conclusion that allowing Thanos to obtain all of the infinity stones was the only way for Dr. And also, it's unknown how far into the future Strange peered, as the Emergence was ready around one year after the events of Endgame, meaning he would've had to have looked pretty far into each future. Attempting to use his magic to find a better way might have set off an Incursion as well. But either way, it's still a compelling theory that's fun to believe in, as it adds even more weight to Strange's Infinity War actions. Warning - the rest of this article contains spoilers for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. The portal is just used to travel in universe, Strange can't even use it to get back to Earth from Titan. While there may have been other means, the cost to the heroes (and the world as a whole) would have been too great for the Avengers to take. Doctor Strange beat Dormammu by trapping him in a time loop. He did this for who knows how long until everything worked out exactly how he planned. Press J to jump to the feed. A victory for Strange is probabaly something akin to: Defeating Thanos, while also having a way to save countless others, while also not opening the door to allow other powerful beings to come in and get the stones. But it's clear that while other options might have been available in certain circumstances, Strange responded the best he could to the threat of Thanos in the MCU timeline. Did he? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Strange himself used the time stone to trap Dormammu and his dimension in a time loop. 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Dr. Yeah but that's when thanos was conscious, I'm saying if they tried this instead of pulling his gauntlet off when he was incapacitated, This all takes place after he sees the only way to win, so you have to assume that he did all the ideas posted here so far and none of them worked. A subreddit dedicated to the Marvel Cinematic Universe! And he also didn't have his sling ring or else they could've regrouped on earth after they landed on titan. 13 Captain America Cap was able to hold back a nearly unstoppable Thanos with just his bare hands, an impressive physical feat. That is why the story of Jesus Christ resonates so strongly with people because they believe he sacrificed himself to save everyone. A new fan theory for Avengers: Endgame explains why exactly Doctor Strange gave the Time Stone willingly to Thanos despite knowing the consequences. Thanos had to win. I like the comparison when Thanos changed the piece of scrap metal that got dropped on him into some type of large dark bats and when Doctor Strange did something similar to him he was expecting something worse and got butterflies. During the battle on Titan at the end ofInfinity War, it's assumed that Doctor Strange did everything he could to prevent Thanos from winning in the long run. Given that number, it's likely he saw many large events that go beyond just the Snap. What if Thanos takes the stone during one of the loops? Could literally just slip the gauntlet right off, behead him, cut off his arms, anything, and all before he'd have time to react. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. or does he go into a "void" so to speak only to re-emerge later when the hulk snaps everyone back? A place to discuss Plotholes, Continuity errors or even unexplained events for Movies, Books, Games, or anything else you can think of, Press J to jump to the feed. We assume Strange still has precog information before Tony's snap from the dialogue; Tony asks "Is this it? A similar decision was taken by Stephen who can see into the multiverse when he handed Thanos the Time Stone, which seemed ridiculous at first but was necessary to save his reality. Rights, lets do that. Thanos snaps 2x. RELATED: Avengers: Endgame Had A Better Thor Than Chris Hemsworth For One Deadly Reason. Strange wins. With the supporting power from space stone, soul stone and power stone, the effects of time stone won't really help Strange to defeat Thanos. 14 million is closer to zero than it is to infinity. Furthermore, in round three when DS is given the opportunity to foresee all possibly future battle outcomes, he would know any potential tactics Thanos might use and thus could effectively steer the direction of battle away from these to ones that are more favourable toward himself. Perhaps that needn't have happened if Doctor Strange had used the Time Stone's full powers just one film earlier. Dormammu had no concept of time. Strength and power are not the same thing. In terms of strength physical strength no, Dr. Strange is not stronger than Thanos. Thanos is literall It takes the power of all three stones to create the laws of physics as we know them, independently they lack the qualities of the other. Also, The Ancient One mentions that she can't see beyond her death so there may have also been some in that 14 million which they did succeed but Strange died before seeing that possibility and so counted it as a fail. It will be interesting to see the role it likely plays. However based on onscreen feats, I'm not sure either of them could counter the effect of time Stone. So, if the non-time stones are independent of time, then they could theoretically be able to act outside of normal time and perhaps their combined power lacking time could give their user their independence from time. The group is composed of Charles Xavier, Mister Fantastic, Black Bolt, Captain Marvel, Captain Carter and Baron Mordo, who has replaced his world's Doctor Strange as both Sorcerer Supreme and a member of the Illuminati after his death. Stones are destroyed. There are practically infinite possibilities and who's to say that there aren't more but he just didn't look past that first one. "Oh, we win in 1 of 14,000,000 scenarios? and Strange responds "If I tell you, it won't happen" (I'm paraphrasing here, these might not be their exact quotes), but we can infer that means that Strange thinks he's still on track with his vision (If we were already off track he could just say "No this different already but it doesn't mean its impossible to win" or something like that). Strange did use the time stone against Thanos on Titan. Ant-man pops out kicks off the time heist. As seen following the iconic snap, the Gauntlet was damaged, possibly beyond repair, and having removed Etri's hands following the Gauntlet's construction, it's unlikely that a replacement can be forged. Even during a recently released Eternals deleted scene, Sprite and Makkari have a conversation about the worth of the human population. The team utilized the Book of Vishanti to come out of this battle on top as Professor X, Captain Carter, Maria Rambeau, Black Bolt, Mr. Even Thanos himself questions it during their fight. Stopping someone like Thanos would always take sacrifice, and the ultimate cost of Endgame at least wasn't an entire reality. For requests, comments, or to hear his pitch for a third Avatar series that incorporates robots, you can reach him atbs.zachary@gmail.com. There is always a chance but by himself he would not have much of one with out doing something dramatic like when he fought the Hulk He used the po Awesome, do me a favor and check another 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 just to be sure. Endgame revealed that this included the Avengers discovering time travel, going back to get the Stones, making the Stark tech gauntlet, and bringing everybody back to life before Tony snapped his fingersand sacrificed himself to kill Thanos. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Joshua Isaak is a Comics Staff Writer for Screenrant and attended New York University. Why those possibilities didn't come up is a mystery, although it could be chalked up to Earth-616 not being in danger of an Incursion or any other kind of interactions with other universes before Spider-Man: No Way Home. He didn't show up to the first fight anyways, don't know if he would be there for this newer hypothetical fight. It's pointed out that if Doctor Strange knew about the Celestial inside Earth, then surely he would've gotten involved in the Eternals' plan to ensure that it worked. Would have made for a less compelling story though i guess. While on Titan, Doctor Strange and the rest of the gang battle against Thanos (Josh Brolin), ultimately failing to defeat the Mad Titan. Yea, there are a lot of situations where Thanos could have pretty easily been defeated. However, a new fan theory may explain the rationale behind Strange's decision to relinquish the Infinity Stone he had sworn his life to protect in exchange for Tony Stark's life despite previously vowing to let the ArmoredAvenger die if given the choice. While Strange could control time with the Strange moved the apple forward after only practicing with the Stone for a minute - imagine what he would be capable of if he had just a little more time to hone his skills. However the real reason they lost is also the main moral question of the story. In this flashback moment, the MCU's Illuminati defeated the iconic Marvel villainon his homeworldTitan,as the shot showed the villainwith his double-bladed sword piercing his chest. 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